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Match Thread – Spurs To Go A Wandering Against Wycombe

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Fresh from our clinical, albeit not great, display against Sheffield United, the fixtures for Tottenham Hotspur have given us a small, but much needed break, and we aren’t in action again until next Monday where attentions again turn to a possible trip to Wembley.

Our next opponents are Championship team Wycombe Wanderers in the fourth round of the FA Cup and although the struggling side are bottom of the second tier table, the pattern this year for manager Jose Mourinho’s select XI has been to struggle against the strugglers.

As I type, the only injury I’m aware of is the long standing issue with Giovani Lo Celso and even if a knock or two was picked up in the last match, the week’s break here should do the trick, so it again becomes about how much Mourinho wants to tinker with an eye to the fixtures ahead.

Let’s be honest though, banana skin or not, this is another of those games fe4w won’t expect us to win and win comfortably at that. Let’s hope we’ve got our shooting boots on again.

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  • TQ2Spurs says:

    There’s no stopping Leicester at the moment, good job we don’t play them until the last game of the season!

  • Niall D says:

    TQ
    The only thing I will say about us against Leicester is that we gave em both their goals.
    Plus it’s a long season do they have the squad and Rodgers historically bottles it at the end of the season.

  • BelgianSpur says:

    As a side note, I’m not sure if any of you have an interest in American football/the NFL, but I thought I would share this.

    The Buffalo Bills have just eliminated the Baltimore Ravens from the NFL playoffs. Since that game, Bills fans have donated more than 360.000 dollars to a charity backed by Baltimore’s star quarterback Lamar Jackson.

    What a genuinely nice thing to do. The world would be a better place if all sports fans behaved that way. Winning fans doing something nice for the losing team to soften the blow of losing, while helping people in need in the process.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/bills-fans-reportedly-raise-360-k-and-counting-for-lamar-jackson-charity-000416754.html

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    BS…..isn’t that what Spurs fans have just done by buying virtual tickets for the Marine game?

    Ok, the money doesn’t go to charity as such but it has ensured the survival of a community based club for a number of years despite the difficulties it faced due to coronavirus.

    • PompeyYid says:

      TQ…thanks for reminding me of that, getting old lol!, it is a very good comparison, as BS said good to see good sports fans are about, one way or another. COYS

  • BelgianSpur says:

    TQ2Spurs – It’s certainly in the same line of good deeds.

    I particularly like the Buffalo gesture because the money will go to children in need, but I agree, the solidarity shown to Marine is a great show of altruism.

  • block 108 spurs says:

    Yes the 300k spurs fans put into Marine has helped them a lot, as semi pro clubs are struggling this season. Also HK10 sponsored Leyton Orient shirts himself.

  • PompeyYid says:

    b108spurs….I read that about Harry n Leyton Orient, fantastic, feet on the ground that lad.

    I also read that Marine had made +£500K from their cup run, it will keep em going for up to 10 years, marvelous, thanks to the Yid fans for their excellent help. COYS

  • block 108 spurs says:

    PY, Harry is a sensible lad, his dad made sure harry does not get carried away with his success, my ITK friend knows them well. Sadly Dele is opposite in behaviour and temperament and has been involved in unnecessary incidents over last 2 years…

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    I hope Dele gets the rumoured loan move to PSG, I hate to see his talent going to waste on our bench, it might be the making of him and allow him to return with a fresh outlook on what is required from him.

    I have to chuckle at some of the gossip doing the rounds in what has so far been an unsurprisingly quiet window. Once again we are being linked to Jesse Lingard which to me is nonsensical, it would be more logical for him to be moving to clubs like Southampton, Villa, or Leeds, not a club with top 6 ambitions. I would be truly underwhelmed if that was the limit of our ambition, even in these difficult times.

    I really don’t get the links to Danny Ings either, firstly his injury record isn’t good and secondly…..why would he come to Spurs and be an understudy to HK10?

  • PompeyYid says:

    b108spurs, you are so right there, Harry n Dele the comparison is both ends of the spectrum.

    It is such a shame for Dele, clearly a talented footballer who I believe thinks he has made “it!” so nothing else to prove, for me he must learn you are never to old to learn and to keep on improving, ah well that’s life and proves we are not all the same. COYS

  • Allan says:

    Not really much to say about the match at present except lets put out a team which can do the job and not make the opposition look too good !!

    TQ Yep surely just paper talk and to my mind rubbish . Not sure if Dele has the ability to change his game where ever he plays . He has been hyped up so much that I feel it has affected him which is a pity as he is a class act when given the time to create .

    However what about all this hype about Eriksen returning ? I know we are short of good creative mid fielders but this story ?

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    Allan…..would love to have Eriksen back at his best but think it highly unlikely he would swallow his pride and come back to a club where he felt he wasn’t going to achieve his ambition to win trophies. I’m not sure he will ever get back to his creative best anyway.

    That said, my own feeling is we would be challenging for the PL title if we had a quality playmaker of the likes of Bruno Fernandes or Kevin De Bruyne in the middle of the pitch to play alongside or just in front of PEH and N’Dombele.

  • Geofspurs says:

    TQ …. I think it’s been a long time since Eriksen was at his best …. and even then it wasn’t consistent enough for our ambitions. But I certainly agree that a (consistent) creative MF would be more than useful.

  • Niall D says:

    Hi folks hope you and your loved ones are staying safe and well during “captivity”.
    PY, I think we are on the same hymn sheet here re Dele, he has that petulance in him, I’ve got the house the Beamer, the England caps, it shows a bit in his body language when he’s playing, I think BS alluded to it, if he loses the ball he does a little skip and his shoulders go up, then he thinks about chasing back.
    He used to have a nasty streak a bit of bite to his play, which is only apparent in small doses now.
    I’m not sure what the answer is, do we give him more game time and boost his performance and confidence or do we get what we can for him and move him on for best price.
    TQ,
    I wouldn’t want Ericsson back st Tottenham,
    A few reasons really, he left to get trophies, now we’re in a final and in the mix for a few other cups, does he now want back.
    For me, he downed tools a bit for us at the end and was hardly a Midfield dynamo or general I wouldn’t even have called him a Sergant, he hasn’t sent the world alight in Italy, so why would we want him back.
    Also re getting players back, Bale hasn’t exactly been a raging success so far, whilst I hope there is still time for improvement, the kid gloves need to come off, and Bale needs to get himself out of 3rd gear.
    Maybe he’ll get a bit of time on Monday.

  • BelgianSpur says:

    I agree with TQ regarding Eriksen. If his heart is in it, he’s top creative player, and his numbers match up to anybody’s in the PL.

    But I think that there are too many hurdles to overcome. He’d have to come back with his tail between his legs, take a pay cut, convince Mourinho etc. Nice story in principle but I don’t see it.

    Besides, we already have a reclamation project in the building… I want to see the best out of Bale before we even contemplate doing it with someone else.

    I think the Lingard talk is just paper talk.

    Ings, I could see how he might want to prove himself at top 6 level after his Liverpool fiasco, and perhaps try to show that he and Kane can in fact play well together – it would improve his England chances as well. Ings in top form is better than Southampton, with all due respect to them.

    Where that would leave Vinicius is another story. He hasn’t really done much wrong since he’s been here, and he’s performed when the manager has picked him. The fee to buy him permanently is steep (45 million), so maybe Levy is hoping that Ings is a cheaper alternative and less of a gamble.

    As far as Dele is concerned, for his career’s sake, he needs to play. Right now I have my doubts as to whether Dele can in fact realise his potential and become a top player. Talent isn’t everything. Is he willing to put in the hard work?

    This being said, if he is going to go anywhere, I think PSG is a horrible choice. New league, big club, huge competition for places, massive pressure, city with many distractions, spotlight on him. I understand why that’s a good choice for Spurs, because there’s no risk of potentially strengthening a direct rival, but from the player’s perspective, I find it a really bad move.

    I understand the connection with MP, but where would he play? PSG play in a 4231 and the 3 players playing behind the striker are Neymar, Mbappe and Di Maria, with players like Draxler and Sarabia on the bench. If it’s to go to PSG and rot on the bench, what’s the point? Play limited minutes in a much weaker league? Is that how he plans to get back into the fold for England?

    Dele would be much better off doing like Jesse Lingard. Go to a team like West Ham, Everton, Southampton, Wolves etc, be the main man, score a few goals and build up some confidence again. If he’s a top player for any of those teams, the big boys will come back for him soon enough…

  • PompeyYid says:

    BS, good/post read there covering most things in the “what can we bullshit about now” media at the moment, my only real thought is, Danny Ings won’t come to Spurs to play second fiddle, and anyway at Scum he is a “big fish in a little pond” COYS

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    It sometimes feels like there could be some kind of clause in Bale’s loan deal which requires us to pay a higher proportion of his wages the more games he plays! :- )

    It doesn’t appear it was a good idea other than being a good commercial deal to sell loads more shirts, if the speculation is accurate and Zidane is replaced in the summer it may give him the opportunity to see out his contract back in Spain.

  • Niall D says:

    Burnley beat Liverpool
    It just shows that nothing this season is a shoe in.
    This year the league is wide open.
    We’re still in the running my friends.

  • Geofspurs says:

    That’s right, ND. 27 shots, 6 on target, no goals. This is some kind of season.

  • Geofspurs says:

    …. And they’ve only taken 3 points from their last 5 games. It could be a good time to play them?!

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