Date: 6th October 2019 at 7:30pm
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When the immediate emotion-charged reaction to recent performances had returned to calm contemplation, I was able to find some perspective.

For many seasons we have been privileged to watch some of the best football Spurs have played since the sixties. Supporters have enjoyed high-class entertainment on the pitch and seen THFC’s world-wide profile climb to the point where we could all be justifiably proud of our club.

The ‘project’ that is THFC has been viewed by all as a huge success…not success in terms of trophies, but success in terms of the club’s development. We have witnessed the club’s growth with the addition of our training facility, state-of-the-art stadium, reputable manager, and various sponsorship contracts. All the groundwork for the club’s long-term future is in place.

The reality, in football terms, is that this was the easy part, the tangible part. Finding a squad of players that have the capacity to take the football world by storm is another matter…and far more difficult.

Every football club is embarked on a never ending journey of evolution which, by definition, means regular stages of transition. All of the so-called ‘top six’ clubs have demonstrated how the evolution of football works in recent seasons. The older generation of supporters have witnessed many such transitions no matter which club they follow.

It is beginning to look like Spurs are now in transition. Players have aged or not fulfilled their potential. New players have come in and some players have left. The squad is not the same one that delivered all of the stunning performances and glorious football we have witnessed for several seasons. And, believe me, there were many stunning performances creating many memories. Currently, the squad is not playing as the team, the unit, it once was. There is not the harmony or the understanding between players. Results and performances on the pitch have suffered since the start of last season.

It needs to change. But that change, that transition, will take some time. We still have a very talented squad of players. They are all parts of the jigsaw that completes a picture. Presently, the pieces are difficult to put together. There may even be a piece or two missing…but the foundation is there, as is the answer to completing the puzzle. It just has to be found and, personally, I believe that the manager and chairperson are capable of finding it…will find it. After all, they did get us to this point in the first place and neither of them would settle for it all ending here.

The periods of transition will not take so long if there is something real to start with and build on. There is much to build on at Tottenham. In a sense, Spurs are the victims of their own magnificent performances in recent seasons because ‘transition’ means there will be a lull, a backward step, and this is never acceptable to supporters who are emotionally connected to the club and demand never-ending success…which is never going to happen.

Evolution does not work that way in football.

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130 Replies to “Tottenham: Victims Of Their Own Success”

  • My mistake; It’s worse than that! (Or should I say better?) United are just 2 points above the relegation zone! (And yet just 2 points below Spurs)… LOL! It’s close…

    And Everton (after many saying they are the team to watch, after spending a ton of money) are one of 2 teams just 2 points below United and in that relegation zone. It’s not as easy as it looks this football/money game we all watch. The PL is tough, from top to bottom…

  • TQ2S….your remark ” Real and Barca coming to the end of the Golden era and are in need of rebuilding” good quote, but methinks you leaving yourself wide open to….are you comparing us to them cos they have won loads of trophies?, not me by the way! but loads of others lol!

    HT….so true regards MU and the Toffees, but as there is still a long season ahead, same for us, things will change, its a tough old Prem for us fans to deal with and keep managing our respective teams lark lol, funny old sport this game of football. COYS

  • TQ2S….I know that mate, its the other’s lol!

    Geofspur….your wit! are you getting bored? like most of us lol! COYS

  • I don’t think using Harry Kane as an example of someone willing to take the “Spurs discount” is either fair or representative. He has an emotional attachment to his boyhood club, and is therefore probably willing to give the club more leeway.

    I don’t think fans can expect the same dedication/loyalty from other players coming from other clubs/countries.

    I am also surprised to see so many Spurs fans reject the notion that we pay below market value, when this has been documented over and over, by independent organisations such as CIES, but financial firms such as Deloitte, and in interviews from ex- or current players themselves.

    I also think that many on this thread are confusing two things: being happy with the financial conditions in your contract, and having a market for your services.

    To illustrate my point: working in IT, I deal with a lot of people in India. Many of those IT workers aren’t particularly happy/well paid for the work that they do. However, because the job market is what it is, they unfortunately don’t necessarily have the opportunity to walk out of their current employer and go get a better paying job at another company. Sadly, there are many of those workers and companies can basically get away with vastly under-paying said workers. There isn’t much they can do about it, but that still doesn’t mean that those people are happy with what they earn. Those are 2 different concepts.

    Not to mention that when it comes to football, there is another element in that the club does have a say in whether you stay or go, and can slap a massive transfer fee on your head to deter suitors.

    Also, it’s very easy to blame the players by saying “they signed the contract” but who can tell what life is going to be like 2/3/4 years down the line? If they sign that contract at a time when everything at the club is going well, and with promises of investment in the squad being made, only to find out a few years down the line that the picture painted/the promises made are not the reality, who can blame them for wanting to leave?

    In many other walks of life, people sign permanent contracts (ie with no end date) with their employer. Does that mean that those people should never expect a raise/promotion, or expect to honour that contract forever? I don’t think many people sign contracts with that outlook nowadays, and I find it unreasonable to expect that from footballers. Regardless of what the contract says, things change in the real world, and it’s not unreasonable to expect players to want their contracts to reflect those changes accordingly, at regular intervals. Clubs cut players all the time with no sentiment whatsoever. Is it therefore unreasonable for players to show the same ruthlessness?

    Could it also not be possible that some players accept staying at Spurs for the opportunities the club provides (featuring in the CL, for example), yet be unhappy with the wages on offer, when they benchmark what they earn with equivalent players at other CL clubs? That feeling may well exist regardless of whether a suitor is lining up for their services at any one point in time.

    Situations change quickly and clubs are only potentially one injury away from either declaring, or reigniting, an interest in one of our players. Why be so definitive about the interest in our players, when at best, that is only true at one very specific point in time, and subject to very rapid change? It seems silly to me to draw definitive conclusions like many on here are doing.

  • Geof – “From your reply, which has nothing to do with my question, I’m guessing you are making assumptions about how Eriksen is affecting the team’s morale after all. But I really would like to know which of his team-mates have stated he is destroying their morale.”

    Here’s an article quite clearly alluding to that fact:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/eric-dier-heads-mauricio-pochettinos-plans-for-january-sales-j3s0txcmj

    Of course, you can always use the argument that this is just a journalist speculating. How much credibility you want to give it is a personal choice. We don’t know how much effort this journalist has put into finding credible sources, cross checking facts etc. I believe the Times is a relatively established news outlet and I doubt they’d let a journalist publish an article like that if it was completely baseless, but I may be wrong.

    So depending on your point of view, you can either dismiss this as nothing, or accept that there is no smoke without fire. Both points of view can be defended. You being ever the optimist, I know which side of the fence you are going to fall on.

  • BS….read your lecture to us “numpties” but once I got to where you compared the Indian workforce and there pay to Professional Prem lge players I almost give up, but with true Brit grit I read on lol!

    It still stands no matter the way you do your comparisons, if a player feels he is worth more than what is offered by the club who currently employs him, he does not have to sign, there is no gun held to his head, simple as that. COYS

  • There are plenty of examples where the club have negotiated improved contracts with players, despite them having 2 or 3 years still to run on their existing one, so I don’t think the club expects players to see out the full length of their contract without review.

    Surely the process to review contracts is done when the club recognises that players who are performing well could be tempted away by competitors offering higher wages. There will of course be situations where, for one reason or another, the club isn’t willing to offer a new or an improved contract, this could be due to age, deterioration in attitude or performance, or any number of other factors.

  • BS …. I don’t think the situation regarding low-paid workers in India relates to footballers who are earning 20,000 + a week. I’m sure many footballers can earn more elsewhere but they have to consider the happiness of their families, who may have a good life where they are, and a social network they enjoy. Whichever way you look at it, PL footballers make a very comfortable living and enjoy standards few could aspire to. When you enjoy such an income there is, for some, less incentive to chase more money elsewhere. Players might also feel happier and more settled at a club and are reluctant to move on. Workers in India would no doubt have a slightly different take on this. Why wouldn’t they?

    I think, personally, that if Eriksen ever gets to play for Madrid it will not result in a happy ending for him.
    Players have control of their own careers and will act according to their personal needs …. not as supporters think they should.

  • You only have to look at Edin Hazzard to support your point Geof, he doesn’t look anywhere near as happy at RM as he did receiving all of the adulation at Chelsea. Never mind, I’m sure his wealth management advisors are happy at the extra commission they are making!

  • PY …. Sorry, mate …. I’ve just seen your comment to BS and noted you’d already copied my comment before I wrote it! lol : – )

  • Geof….no probs mate, its just that my secret talent has finally come out lol!

    TQ….spot on there with that analysis regards Hazard.

    Another rumour doing the rounds…Moaniniho waiting to take over at Spurs hahahaha journo’s getting desperate, made my day with this bull?, don’t want him anyway. COYS

  • I see our Troy Parrot got himself sent off last night while representing Rep of Ireland U21’s, got pushed in the chest then play acted at being hit in the boatrace, stop the acting or should I say cheating young man, many Spurs fans will not like this happening, as we are not Chavski fans. COYS

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