Date: 25th November 2019 at 5:55am
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Last week was slightly interesting for those of a Tottenham Hotspur persuasion…the departure of Mauricio Pochettino, the quick arrival of Jose Mourinho and victory over locals West Ham United. It’s another quick Champions League turnaround as well as we face Olympiakos on Tuesday evening and everyone is hoping our new gaffer makes it two from two and picks up his first win on White Hart Lane soil.

Spurs fans are used to plenty of rotation for our European games, but it remains to be seen what Jose will do as given the overall performance, he might hold true with don’t change a winning side, but in the alternative, he could take full advantage to take a look at those players who missed out on his last selection.

Confidence breeds success though and we will be aiming for back to back wins to end November in some style given the upcoming home clash with Bournemouth.

With plenty of fans still mixed on his appointment, another victory will help keep those tempers in check.

Olympiakos....

Jose's First Home Win

Jose's First Home Win

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108 Replies to “Mourinho Looking For Three Points On Home Soil As Spurs’ New Era Continues – Match Thread”

  • HT – there is something to learn from every game, agreed. By my initial comment was meant to be “in the grand scheme of things”.

    Yes, we’ve have learned plenty of things about individual performances or specific match events.

    But in the grand scheme of things, what have we learned? That we can beat an average European team at home? That we are vulnerable at the back? That we’ve got a world class striker? Are there any big lessons to be taken from a macro level? That was the intent of my original comment.

  • The main problem I have seen with Aurier is not from a lack of talent. It has been his inconsistency and unpredictability. He will need a few more stable and solidly good performances over time to convince me that he has turned a corner. I know he has the ability. He has boasted about his own abilities. Now we need the more convincing proof of it.

    One very obvious thing that Jose has done with Aurier is given him licence to attack and a little less responsibility to defend. In that with Serge playing high up and more as an attacking winger he was using Davies and then Rose much further back and more as part of a back 3 when we were in control of the ball .and on the front foot.

    It looks as though Davies might be out for a while and so we will probably have to hope that Rose can adapt to this different role. And maybe he just didn’t quite manage to last night. Although I think he improved in the 2nd half. We do know that Davies is more suited to playing in a 3 and being the more defensively inclined.

    There is of course an alternative to playing Rose in this kind of configuration and that is to play Jan there.

    But Jose may not necessarily set up in the same way if he can see that Rose isn’t suited to it but wants him to play…

  • jod – therein lies the contradiction. You can’t make blanket statements such as “for all the players running down their contracts there’s no doubt in my mind that to some extent they’ve switched off and its reflected in their performances”.

    I think Jose is still getting solid performances out of the likes of Toby, and to a lesser extent, Christian (although the sample size remains very small). Rose, on the other hand, seems less interested, and the jury is still out on Jan. 4 players running down contracts, but putting in very different levels of effort.

    Regarding Lo Celso, you could argue that every single player at Spurs is “the previous manager’s player”. Yet Jose is still putting faith in players that MP used to pick too – it’s inevitable.

    But make no mistake about it: Lo Celso is more than capable of operating in more advanced roles. In fact, according to Transfermarkt, in 46 appearances for Betis last year, Lo Celso played 24 times as a central midfielder, and 16 times as a number 10 (and another 5 times as a defensive midfielder and once as a right midfielder).

    He scored 8 goals and assisted one from central midfield, and scored 7 and asisted 4 from the number 10 position.

    So assuming Jose has read the scouting reports (and it would be insulting his intelligence to suggest he hasn’t), Lo Celso would have been a very credible candidate to come on yesterday, even more so if you know that you can’t count of Eriksen long term.

  • But it’s all the little things that add up to make up the “grand scheme”. It’s why the modern day coach will study minute details of data and/or have club employees to do it on their behalf. And Jose is a stickler for detail based on data. He will learn a lot of stuff that is never obviously apparent to mere spectators. You know how they love to make a simple game a complex one…

    Jose puts it like this. He says it’s all about details. Some that are random. Slices of luck, etc. And others that are subtle moves, shifts in a players body language their responses to changes in tactics (see Dier) and players attitudes and much much more…

  • BelgianSpur – Can’t agree on Toby, to me he’s just not at the same level he was two seasons ago. While in one sense its true that Jose hasn’t signed any of these players he’s said himself that he’s tried to buy some of them from us in the past. Those players don’t really have to prove themselves. Wasn’t aware Lo Celso had that kind of experience further forward. It would make a big difference to have another body to pick from in that front four. Let’s hope he gets a chance to show what he can do, the Bayern game maybe ?

  • At WHL last night, we saw exactly why poch was sacked. first 30 mins we were watching the greeks outplay us. Then JM replaced Dier and eriksen ran over to Dele told him to move up front, by waving his arm. We improved a bit then Dele put away a chance… (I had a perfect view of this) 2nd half we gained control, the greeks tired a bit, with our goals affecting their belief. Aurier needs to keep doing his defensive work, and attacking. Sissoko covered for him when he was upfield.

    So JM used his tactical experience early in the game which poch has not done before. We have now got more belief and confidence into the players, so looking good for PL improvement. Well done the ballboy…COYS

  • LT – we can speculate all we want about teams etc but I don’t think your comment is right.

    There have been multiple instances in the last 5 years when MP picked the wrong team (and that isn’t a knock on MP, every coach in the world gets it wrong sometimes). But the big difference is/was the Jose was willing to do something about it early in the game.

    It’s not about getting it right or wrong in the 1st place, it’s about being able to recognise that it isn’t working early enough, and being brave enough to do something about it.

    MP has had plenty of opportunities to show that he was willing to change things, in the course of the last 5 seasons. More often than not, he chose not to. Fine, it’s his style and he had his philosophy. Credit for believing in yourself. But it’s a fine line to walk between confidence and arrogance, and MP should have been more ruthless at certain times.

  • BS….I don’t agree with you most of the time, but I admit your line “MP should have been more ruthless at certain times” is bloody true, and if he had been more like that he might still be manager of us. COYS

  • What did we learn from last night. I think we learned that the whole team is ready to dig deep and start to find a winning mentality again. I knew after that stroke of luck that we would win the game. The players heads were up the whole time and never gave up. We have a manager prepared to make changes he has given certain players the confidence to play to their strengths. Did any one else see HK10 martial the team around the tail end of the game. Could Lloris do that, no. Would MP have changed tack so quickly, no, would he even have used all three subs. I love and appreciate what he did for our club but he had an intransigence in tactics which often cost us. The futures bright thr futures lilly White. C O Y S.

  • BS I agree with you and said as much in previous posts. MPs match management left a lot to be desired but we can’t speculate what he would have done with a team he didn’t put out. We saw what Jose did and it was great.

  • Fully expecting Eriksen to go but like other’s have said he is very experienced and gelled with the team so makes sense he is still being used especially in JM’s early days as he gets to grips with everything – hopefully it’s just a matter of time until Lo Celso gets given a go – big expectations of him. Dele and Lo Celso to be the main playmakers once Eriksen goes, Dele already appears to be anyway even with Eriksen still at the club.

    Wonder if JM will try and swap Eriksen for Bale in January – would be quality if he did – better than getting nothing come the summer and like I said above we have Dele and Lo Celso as playmakers anyway. Then again Eriksen may well refuse any move now and sign a pre-contract – bollocks to that – what a loss – upto £100m – we can’t afford to be losing that kind of money – what a sting to the tail.

    Davies out for a good while possibly, Rose playing crap – think we might need a new LB come early January. I’m not convinced by Aurier on the right also – got a great goal yesterday but defensively he is not at all sound. 2 new full-backs for me are needed – that said would be nice to see Foyth be given a go as he has been with Argentina and seems to be doing well for them when away on international duty.

    Hoping to see Toby and Vert’s sign new deals – think they still have plenty to offer – even though both are wrong side of 30 now. Maybe a new CB is needed also.

    Also hoping Dier and Winks can live up to JM’s billing – would be nice given they have grown at the club (Dier joining at 20 and Winks 1 of our own) and are both English – indeed Wink’s counting as home grown.

    Finally wonder if the likes of KWP, Tanganga, Skipp and Parrott will be loaned out in January and Clarke re-called and loaned to someone who actually plays him – think it would be advantageous to all of them to get 6 months playing time and then maybe return ready for next season. Then again – I guess it’s good to have them around in case injuries pile up especially with the busy December fixture list coming up and moving forwards into the new year.

    • I’m sure JM will be concerned that we have conceded 4 goals in 2 games against teams that we ought to be keeping clean sheets against, and all 4 were very preventable, and resulted from poor defensive mistakes. In the 2nd half we upped our game after Ali’s goal in first half added time, and won comfortably. When we play better teams we definately will not be able to give them 2 goal starts. Regarding Toby, he may have slowed slightly but his long ball distribution is still superb and a good option for occasionally going long. I am still not totally convinced by Sanchez, he is careless and vulnerable at times. Rose looks largely uninterested and content to go through the motions and little else.

  • I’m sure JM will be concerned that we have conceded 4 goals in 2 games against teams that we ought to be keeping clean sheets against, and all 4 were very preventable, and resulted from poor defensive mistakes. In the 2nd half we upped our game after Ali’s goal in first half added time, and won comfortably. When we play better teams we definately will not be able to give them 2 goal starts. Regarding Toby, he may have slowed slightly but his long ball distribution is still superb and a good option for occasionally going long. I am still not totally convinced by Sanchez, he is careless and vulnerable at times. Rose looks largely uninterested and content to go through the motions and little else.

  • I wonder… Will Poch still be getting stick when Jose makes an early substitution that doesn’t work out? Will Poch be getting slated if we lose to Bournemouth at the weekend? Will Poch be slammed if we don’t get to the CL final this year? And will he be held responsible if Jose takes us to the FA cup final and we lose?

    No, that’ll probably be Levy’s fault!

  • BelgianSpur – I doubt that. A central defender matures late and often plays his best football when he’s turned thirty. If Toby’s already past his best that is unusual. Not impossible but very surprising.

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