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Match Thread – Time For Conte To Put The Spurs Back On

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Antonio Conte made more changes in midweek than I’d expected, but there is no denying the starting XI that were put out absolutely should’ve been good enough to produce both a performance, and a positive result, against NS Mura in our penultimate Europa Conference League Group G clash. It’s almost inconceivable that we managed to blow it in such a pathetic fashion, as with a 2-1 defeat, we have thrown away a chance at top spot and our very qualification through to the next round is now hanging in the balance with Rennes up next.

It’s hardly how anyone wanted to back up Conte’s first Premier League win, and it’s certainly not the preparation we’d have wanted going into what will be another tough clash with Sean Dyche’s Burnley side this coming Sunday, but it is what it is and we need to see a much better reaction from the players when they take to the pitch again.

You can only imagine some have now marked their card under Conte and we’ll see less of them moving forward as we look for an unlikely January boost to our spirits.

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  • TQ2Spurs says:

    Seems this debating section is reflecting the feelings of posters without having to say a word!

  • block 108 spurs says:

    TQ2… We are all speechless / fed up after commenting on spurs players performances last 8 games, too many sub par performances. Conte will swing the axe and 5 will go, 3 new players in.

    Burnley will be up for revenge on the cup defeat to spurs, and brutal tackles and fouls / physical game will be their efforts as usual.

  • Allan says:

    TQ2
    Yep totally agree . I was speechless on Thursday and am still amazed and dumbfounded especially when my mates equate Mura with Accrington Stanley !!!
    However I will be watching and hoping ( as usual ) that there will be a huge backlash from our first team on Sunday and what ever tactics Burnley employ we will win well and get some respect back . After all Burnley are in the bottom 3 so we can’t loose ! Can we ?

  • Geof Hendrick says:

    My prediction …. there will be a result!

  • Niall D says:

    Hi folks,
    Like many still smarting (a bit) from Thursdays result, however let’s hope we can turn the embarrassment into a fighting performance.
    After all it will be a different 11 on the field, and not forgetting that we out ran Leeds last week so out running Burnley should be a given.
    If nothing else Conte has made us harder working and more athletic so far, there will be time for flair and skill as the season progresses, let’s just get the results manage games, don’t concede any goals in short get a good base to work from, so far we’re unbeaten under Conte in the Premier league, I’m going to take a clean slate approach to this one and leave Thursday in the bin.
    A Spurs win 2-0COYS.

    • Love totty says:

      Definitely need a reaction to that debacle on Thursday. 12 points from the next four games against normally beatable opposition would make the table look a whole lot better. We live in hope.

  • Love totty says:

    If Conte rates Sessingnon, he should play him tomorrow. More than he deserves but it should bolster his confidence to achieve his potential. On Thursday I blamed Conte for taking the risk of leaving him on after getting booked so early. Hard but necessary lesson to be learned.

  • Niall D says:

    LT I do agree,
    The ref, as many euro Refs are, was quite card happy, he even booked Conte himself, whilst I did think the 2nd was a yellow Sess’s 1st foul wasn’t and for that matter, tho I’m clutching at Straws Mura should’ve had a player sent off for wrestling Kane to the ground.
    But do agree that Sess should get a 2nd or 3rd chance or even a place on the bench, he was a tad unlucky or inexperienced.

  • Wentworth says:

    Time to be ruthless and get rid of the expensive disasters…..the lazy and bored N’Dombele, the one legged, injury prone wimp Lo Celso, the hapless and disastrous Doherty, the sideways and backwards maestro Winks, not to mention Davies, Sanchez, Jack Clarke, Sessegnon, one hit wonder Bergwwijn. Get rid of the lot…easily forgotten and no where near good enough. Most would not even get on the bench at Brighton!!!
    We must start aiming higher..if they will come.
    Conte knows now he only has Kane?, Son, Lloris and Hojberjg plus Emerspon and Royal, maybe Reguilon to work with.
    We have one of the worst, boring squads in living memory. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Conte will be off, if Levy keeps his moth infested wallet in his inside pocket.

  • jod says:

    I don’t give a damn about the result in Europe. You can talk about momentum but more time on the training pitch with no meaningless European games getting in the way would be a much better option for the rest of the season. It would give the manager more of a chance to change the mentality of the team, work on the fitness and improve the organisation. The crazy part of the current situation is that there is a fourth place up for grabs with no clear favourites to get it. So the important games are the league games, the idea all matches are equally important is ludicrous. Hopefully Conte will get the effort level up quickly, which will on its own improve results. The problem is we clearly don’t have much depth and playing the same players twice a week will only end one way, with burn out. So cup games will be a problem. One thing that won’t work is spending imaginary money, though it seems that’s always the proposed solution.

  • Niall D says:

    Danny thanks yet again for this thread and the others they were coming thick and fast.
    Re the Euro comp, I would like to have gotten further, we still may, if only to have given game time and confidence to younger players, along with senior players, however that ship may have sailed and it didn’t work out, and in a way only exposed our frailties.
    Mind you I would rather see it there than think on the likes of today we could “rest player against the likes of Burnley and get a bloody nose. So maybe the loss on a Thursday was indeed a learning curve, we know where we are and what we have to work with and rely on until January at least.
    We may not see the benefit of being out of this comp until March when, hopefully, it starts to tell on W/Ham and Leicester.
    COYS.

  • 123spurs says:

    How low can these players go
    Today will tell a lot
    Are AC tactics to advanced for these players

  • 123spurs says:

    MURA are the worst ranked team in this competition. But these players have little to no interest so it don’t matter who is in charge, villa players seem to be on the same wave length. A simple group and we have to play the likes of kane and son

    This cup is the easiest of all the 4 cups to finally win a trophy.

  • wentworth says:

    Match postponed,snow. Bet the players are relieved. Especially, N’Dombele.

  • wentworth says:

    Just saw the team selection for today although the match is postponed.
    Our bench is abysmal. Doherty, Winks, Bergwijn. Where are our young players? The guys on the bench should not be there.
    We have fantastic playing and training facilities but no young players knocking on the door. Unbelievable.

  • TK says:

    What’s the best thing that can happen to a Spurs match these days? A snow storm that cancels the match. No need to watch lethargy on display today,

    COYS. Wake up and play football when there’s a pitch open for play. No more zombie football. Football is meant to be the beautiful game when played by players wearing our kit.

    Snow is beautiful when fresh. Better than zombie play.

  • TK says:

    WW,
    As to the selection of the team for today’s postponed match–I’m not worried that none of the youth were selected. We’ve seen such atrociously piss poor performances that Conte may want to protect the youth from such experiences. Right the canoe before the new blood enters. Gross embarrassment is not the best way for the lads to be introduced to the game. Stabilize the disastrous lurch in the wrong direction first.

    Poch was right two years ago that the entire group needed drastic refreshing. He want something like a 50% turnover. That wouldn’t be adequate today. Keep about six of the whole lot and bring in 12 to 14 new players. Maybe some of the 12 to 14 already are here in the youth group. But don’t throw them in to experience the horror of no shots on goal and nothing but backwards passes. Have mercy on them. Play the dross before spoiling next year’s broth.

  • TK says:

    I know that six months ago I was arguing that we needed to bring in only four to five new players right away. Subsequent performances reveal that I was wrong. The problem is far more profound that i had been thinking. If we are lucky, we should keep only six or so of the current lot, and a couple of our ‘stars’ should not be included in those who stay, Sell their contracts to teams in Slovenia. Cut rate sale now. Sell joe’s yacht. Buy some hungry talent.

  • wentworth says:

    Fair point TK.
    So glad to have a day off today. At least my Sunday will not be ruined by my moaning and groaning at our pathetic displays
    It seems only a short while ago that I was jumping up and down with excitement and clapping at our superb attacking and passing.
    Actually, it was more than two years ago. We have had to put up with so much dross since MP left and still Levy keeps dusty wallet zipped up. I am awaiting the Jan transfer window with little hope. Maybe a bargain basement buy on Jan 31st which is Blue Cross Day.

  • Niall D says:

    Hi folks
    Let it snow, it may actually give the squad a bit of time to work together with Conte, instead of a rest day tomorrow, we get to the training ground for tactics, drills, fitness work.
    I honestly thought that we had started the clear out well with Aurier, Sissoko, Rose and Lamella out, but it seems we have brought in just as bad with Lo Ceslo injured as many times as Lamella, Doherty actually worse than Aurier. I thought at the end of the season we needed 7 out but even with those gone, unfortunately we still need about 7 or 8 out.
    I think in reality we haven’t replaced (properly) Walker, Verts, Dembele and indeed Ericsson.
    I would argue that Bergs has adequately replaced Wanyama and Romero looks like he could replace Tobs. So for me it isn’t 14 or so players it is probably 5 to 7 players needed, however I don’t expect wholesale clear out in January, much as I would like it, however if we could get 3 to 5 out and bring 2 or 3 in then reassess where we are.
    Our next load of games are winnable and could have us well placed around Christmas and a few wins will give the squad a confidence boost.
    Just waffling really. COYS.

  • TK says:

    Niall,

    I’d guess the numbers of players out and in will be closer to those you propose, but the needs are closer to the numbers i proposed. lol.

    If two years ago I had been asked to evaluate the possibility that THFC would be playing as we did Thursday a week ago, I’d have thought it not possible.

    Could it get worse? We’d have to be outclassed in a match against a team from a school for the disabled.

    Let’s not see our club the place where world-class managers come to have their reputations dashed.

    Who would I definitely keep from the current lot? Well, there’s Son. And after him there’s… ?

    Of course I am writing this based on our latest match. You know, the match that made me thrilled that today’s match was lost to snow fall.

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