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Match Thread – Spurs Looking For 3 From 3 To End On A High With Villa Up Next

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With plenty of positives to take from our victory, and the performance, over Wolverhampton Wanderers at the weekend, it’s another quick turnaround for Tottenham Hotspur as we welcome Aston Villa to White Hart Lane on Wednesday for our penultimate Premier League clash of the 2020/21 campaign.

A campaign that started brightly, and faded rapidly as 2021 hit, however, a potential top five finish is on the cards but for that to happen, we have to absolutely take three points from Dean Smith’s side and form is on our side, even though both clubs have wobbled in the second half of the season.

Another big plus is Villa should be without Jack Grealish (cheers Levy), as since returning from injury he’s yet to even play 45 minutes, so hopefully at worst, he’ll only get introduced at the break.

With some confidence returning based on our last performance, you’d like to think we’d be comfortable long before their talisman hits the pitch, and with no fresh injury concerns, only Serge Aurier and Ben Davies should be missing again.

Can Ryan Mason really restore some momentum and get us three wins from three going into the summer?

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  • TK says:

    Dane and Troy. Kings like Canute and Priam. They should have careers to remember.

  • Niall D says:

    HT good to see ya back m8, lotta sense there, we were OK before Harry we’ll be OK after, don’t forget there are other successful teams in the prem that don’t have Harry Kane. If he does go, I just hope the money for him is spent sensibly.

  • Love totty says:

    Footballers are a long time retired. That’s a long time to spend either welcomed or shunned by a club you played for. I doubt if Mat has many regrets at Southampton. Clubs have trophy records not players so much. Personal records are far more celebrated so if I were H I would definitely stay at Spurs to beat Jimmy’s record and Shearers too. Let’s hope he will be satisfied with winning a trophy as England captain.

  • TK says:

    When Bale left for Real Madrid I wrote in VS that no matter what cups or titles he won there, he would never be loved there. He’d be only one more person who passed through. But if he stayed at Spurs and won a cup or two and the league, he’d be loved and remembered forever.

    Now he’s loaded with cash, but doesn’t really have any love from anywhere. What could have been….
    If it’s money alone that motivated him, he won. But if it’s love he wanted, he blew it. No one in Madrid particularly likes him at all.

    The same goes for Harry Kane. Win a title or two at one of the Manchesters, and they’ll never care about you the way you could be at Spurs. they’ll never love you and remember you as we will. Bring us a title or a cup, and you’ll live in history as a divine being of the club. Win something elsewhere, and it’s okay, that’s all.

    Your call, Harry.

    • BelgianSpur says:

      Maybe looking at his CL winner’s edals is all the positive reinforcement he needs, and he cares little about being loved by fans.

  • TK says:

    Either way, Harry, unless things really screw up, you’ll never want financially.

  • Pauric says:

    TQ2 Spurs, Harry Kane wants to win league titles, Champions League, and cups before his career ends, will he get that @ Tottenham hotspur??? Extremely unlikely, Enic has saddled the club with debts of over 600 hundred million pounds a vanity project, where are wee going as a club on the football pitch backwards. No manager and the best one we had in decades he was starved off funds for almost 2 seasons and bye the time levy decided to invest in footballers the bloody squads legs had gone. The usual with Enic to little and to late. His footballing decisions have been shocking. The simple truth is we have a average squad of players except for Kane and Son. Am I not a fan for having that opinion on our club at this moment in time TQ2 Spurs???

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    Pauric, your post is based on assumptions, you assume Kane will win trophies/titles with another club but it’s not guaranteed. You also assume Poch wasn’t backed with transfer funds which is just speculation, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that Poch chose not to buy alternatives when he couldn’t get his very specific targets.

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    Great draw for Fulham at OT, so pleased that Rashford didn’t gain from taking a dive and conning the referee.

  • BelgianSpur says:

    Re the stadium, I think the argument that it was tough for fans to have access to games at WHL is completely untrue, in my personal experience. I have never held a season ticket, I live abroad, and I have watched dozens of games at WHL without any trouble. Building a bigger stadium had very little to do with granting better access for wanting fans, it was all about selling more tickets.

    There’s nothing wrong with building a multi-functional stadium, but other clubs around Europe have done so for budgets anywhere between 400 and 600 million. At some point the stadium became DL’s vanity project, he wanted the best of everything like a spoiled brat, and he ended up spending way more than what was needed so that he could claim he had the best stadium.

  • BelgianSpur says:

    Geof – it has less to do with wanting to play the “blame game” than it is expecting people to be accountable for their actions and decisions.

    If nobody is willing to assume responsibility for their actions, how can anything reasonably go on? Doctors perfroming surgeries without having to face any scrutiny if things go wrong. Builders erecting buildings with complete distregard for safety requirements because they can’t be blamed if something bad happens… I could go on and on. There’s a reason why accountability is expected in society – it’s because having none leads to chaos.

    It’s the precise reason why there is a profound distrust in politics and politicians – all too often they make promises, or take dubious decisons, knowing nothing can happen to them if things go wrong.

    Is it so wrong for fans to expect DL be be accountable for his decisions?

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    One minute Levy is a tight arse and the next he is overspending by £300m or so on the stadium.

    • BelgianSpur says:

      He’s tight when it comes to spending on players. He overspends on vanity projects. Nothing contradictory there, just bad priorities.

  • Pauric says:

    You can absolutely guarantee Daniel Levy will never over spend on the football team. That’s the small part of the club. How many fans wanted a NFL pitch?????

  • Niall D says:

    Fek me when I spoke about the stadium over spend I was getting comments left, right, centre in support of the stadium, I said at the time just a little bit less would have done, but the critics came out in support of Levys Vanity Project, they’re not too vocal now.
    TK your analogy almost elugy of HKane was brilliant, he will just be another cog in the wining wheel for these teams, forgotten in 2 or 3 years time where as for us, he could be a legend.
    Pauric good point, what is NFL? Anyway. Just for you m8 they should’ve got “Imhotep” to design the stadium, now there’s an architect. 😉
    BS you nailed it, good and great stadiums have been built for much less, we could ve been more balanced.
    TQ imagine that a Man U player faking injury, I bet it won’t be shown again and again and dissected by the Beeb like Sonny’s was.

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    Niall….you’re quite right, they didn’t feature it at all on MoTD!

  • TQ2Spurs says:

    When considering the cost of the stadium build you should bare in mind the phrase ‘rip off britain’, it is absolutely true, everything costs much more here than it does in other countries.

  • Geofspurs says:

    3 – 0!

  • TK says:

    NFL. National Football League. The American professional league for American football. A truly sleazy group of owners of professional sports teams. The owners are white, the majority of players black, and its a violent sport that leaves the majority of former players permanently damaged. The owners agreed a while back to put billions into paying for brain damaged former players, but the owners are doing every shady thing not to actually pay the money. Really horrid group. But they make money hand over fist. They’ve been playing a game every year in London for a while, no?

  • Hot Tottingham says:

    Is it only Spurs supporters that will moan about having something so great as our stadium?

    I feel we should be boasting.

    WHL was falling down. We needed a new stadium and so we built one of the most impressive stadiums around, anywhere in the world… And this is bad?

    Put it this way; Harry Kane at his peak as a Spurs player gives us 6, 7, 8, years of great service. And when we sell him, how much does that make for THFC? Not very much at all in the grand scheme of things.

    The stadium is there for many, many years to come. And it was conceived, designed and built for a much brighter future for THFC… Why anyone can’t see this is beyond me…

    We complain about having the best and we complain about being one of the worst. We complain about ENIC being tight. We complain about ENIC overspending.

    This is all incredibly boring, shortsighted and negative… And negative for the sake of negativity.

    Football ‘wealth’ is all about branding. The stronger and more powerful the brand, the greater the capacity there is for a club to borrow greater sums of money. This is how greater sums of money are then spent on all those incredibly expensive and apparently great players.

    In other words, the greater the capacity a club has for debt, the greater the team/club can be. Big Borrowing Power = Big Debt = Bigger Stars!

    We are deluded if we think otherwise. Spurs were/are never gonna get big, winning the odd trophy here and there. Not with a crumbling WHL, the former (not impressive) THFC branding, and with this skewed and overly romantic view of past glories.

    I’ll suggest that if we want what United, City, Chelsea Real, and Barca have had. Big branding. Big borrowing and Big spending., then Levy/ENIC are going about it in an incredibly clever and ultimately beneficial way. A novel way. A sustainable way. A way to borrow big but earn bigger. A way to the future. Not a way to recreate the romanticism of a long and distant past, but a way to show the sporting world just how it should be done. And, what the future may look like for many years to come… Like it or not!

    If we want trophies, we need more income. Much more… This is what the stadium (and all it will bring) is for. Simple! …………………….

    By the way… As a matter for the record. Harry Kane is on the same basic wage as Mo Salah. As is Ndombele, I think. And we still ain’t won nothin’! Maybe we are paying them too much. Not too little! Haha! Oh, and Bale earns quite a bit too!

    I blame Levy! Especially for the Pandemic! And for keeping Kane. (And paying him too much). And for building such a fantastic stadium… Baaastard!

    I blame Levy! I blame Levy for losing a CL final and not winning quite enough matches to win the PL… I blame… And I moan. And then I moan some more! I bore! …………………

    Reality check, all… Spurs are not Manchester United! Not by a long, long way. And buying a few more overpriced and over-hyped players that only stick around for just 2, 3 or 4 seasons. Or, paying the likes of Harry Kane more and more money, ain’t gonna change that over night… That’s for sure.

    Oh and I lied! It’s not just football is it? Not by a long chalk…

    Spurs 5-0 Villa!

    • PompeyYid says:

      Good morning HT, you really had your hat on when you wrote that very good post, no argument’s from me mate, all so bloody true. COYS

  • DoncasterHotspur says:

    HT – a great post but I think the complaint about the stadium is that Levy spared absolutely no expense on it taking it way over budget – this massive overspend was at the cost of the team despite Levy promising this wouldn’t happen. The best of everything was used on the stadium whilst our signing of players seems largely to depend how long the the player has left on his contract, whether he has the same agent as Jose or who PSG are looking to sell in order to comply with FFP. This is why the club is where they are now – it seems no manager wants to join us, our best player wants out and we will inevitably struggle to attract top players to join us.

  • block 108 spurs says:

    TQ2… Levy has spent money on the subject he knows well… Property building and land development. Professional football is a secondary topic which he is allegedly below the required standard of knowledge / qualifications, as fans have seen over 21 years now. But.. having said that he has guided THFC to be a club that has risen in stature and more well known around the world than before he arrived

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